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Day 17 of 170: The 10% Solution

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Categorized as: Author: Nels, Fantasy Basketball
Posted on: November 16th, 2007

Line of the Night: Leandro Barbosa (6.17). There were only 39 players to choose from last night, so Barbosa’s 5 threes definitely stood out. The 25 points was actually enough to earn him a 10 in that category. 4/4 from the line only got a 9.27, though, because Grant Hill (5.60) was 5/5.

Honorable Mentions: Manu Ginobli (5.73) was as close to a triple-double as any of the crapstars on my fantasy teams will get this year. Yes, I said crapstars. I don’t know what else to call them. I mean, at least my Bulls started making some frickin shots. Luol Deng (5.36), Kirk Hinrich (4.58), and Ben Gordon (4.53) were all in the top 10 last night. Did I mention only 39 people played last night?

Grant Hill had a 5.60 for 3rd best last night.

Waiver Wire Line of the Night: DeSagana Diop (3.38), Brent Barry (3.34), and Chris Duhon (3.21) were pretty high up there (17, 18, 19, respectively). I’m not sure they’re really worth picking up… though if Skiles has actually decided on a 9 man rotation (only 9 Bulls played last night! It’s a Thankgiving-week-eve’s Day Miracle!), Duhon is probably going to continue getting 6-7 points, 4-5 assists, and a three. If you’re looking for another PG in a deep league, you could probably get someone worse.

Goat of the Night: Tyrus Thomas. Most people had probably moved him into their starting lineups since he can put up 20 and 10 every other game, and even in the odd numbered games, he’ll get 2-3 blocks. But only getting 5 points and 5 rebounds in 23 minutes means something is still off with TT. Seems like it’ll still be a little while before he can consistently get to averaging the 15 and 8 he’s clearly capable of.

Dishonorable Mentions: Tony Parker came through with 1/11 from the field and 7 points. If it weren’t for the 5/6 from the line and 8 assists, he’d easily be the GOTN.

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  • Ken
    Thanks, i did make a post looking to move one of my bigs for a guard in my league. Another monster night by kaman who is now mine. I have the player with the ugliest hair/face. Watch out.

    It's my first time playing keeper league..and it was draft. I used your guys cheatsheet to help me draft. It was amazing, helps to be actually prepared for once.

    Ken
  • Will Shu
    Interesting, So to think that a rookie class featuring centers with Oden and Hibbert with the guards Mayo, Rose, and Gordan is crazy.
  • Will, I actually read through the NBA Rule Book looking for an answer to your question. There was nothing about it there (although there was quite a bit about how timeouts work. Fascinating stuff). According to speculation here, here, and here, it would seem that yes, Oden would be a rookie next season as long as he didn't play in a game this season. That makes sense to me. Professional baseball players are considered rookies as long as they play less than a certain amount of games in the major leagues. So, if Oden plays 0 games, I would consider him a rookie.
  • Will Shu
    I have a question that no one seems to answer. If oden doesn't play this year, then is he considered a rookie the next year when he plays? TJ Ford, drafted in 2003 was supposed to be a sophomore in 2005. but since he missed a season, he came back a played the rookie vs sophomore game in 2006.

    http://www.nba.com/allstar2006/rookie_challenge/
  • I didn't refresh until I left my comment and then I saw Patrick's. So, yeah, if you're going to trade for a big man, Horford for Kaman is a good deal for you. I agree with Patrick there.

    I still stick with my idea though, to trade for someone who will give you some small ball stats.

    Of course... If you combine our thinking... you could probably trade for Kaman, and then trade him for a small baller, and you'd probably get a better player than if you just tried to trade Horford for a small baller.

    How's that?
  • I'd say if you've already got that many bigs, try trading Horford (or any of those other guys except Chandler and Jefferson) for some other kinds of players. Especially if you're doing roto... If it's H2H, then maybe you want to just dominate everybody in Pts, Rebs, and Blks. Right there you've got your SF (Barg), PF (Jefferson if he qualifies), and 2 Centers at least. If you've got 2 Util spots then that's practically your whole lineup right there. I don't see how adding or swapping a big man is going to help you out.
  • Hey Ken - many thanks for the complement - and feel free to throw out questions wherever. Nels and I will find them and be happy to make stuff up and pass it off as insider knowledge.

    Anyway, if I understand you correctly, I would absolutely trade Horford for Kaman. I play in a keeper league myself and the one thing I've learned over the past five years is that you really have to play for this year. First, it's more fun. Second, who knows what's going to happen next week, never mind next year. Third, as you said, you won't be keeping Horford (that's huge) and you have an excess of big men. Fourth, while Horford is having a great rookie year, Kaman is a proven commodity. If I remember correctly, while his 06-07 was a little disappointing, he finished the 05-06 season ranked somewhere in the 50-60 range on the GMTR player rater. Personally, I think Kaman is in for a great season.

    People might be worried that Kaman's role will be reduced when Brand returns, but as I said, Kaman was solid 2 years ago while playing alongside Brand. Go for it before the other owner reconsiders.
  • Ken
    Love the blog. Just ran into it this year. Got a lot of good info here, keep it up.

    I have a fantasy trade Q which I'm not sure where the proper place to put it. I just remember you inviting any fantasy questions. So here's mine..

    Someone is offering me chris kaman for Al horford, should I take it? It's a 3 year keeper league with the standard 9 cats. I can only keep 3 players and horford would not be one of them. I do have an excess of pf/centers (chandler, bargnani, al jefferson, curry, ratliff, bogut).

    Thanks
    Ken
  • Funny you should bring that up Joey. I was actually just looking for someone to suggest as a Blocker over on the fantasybasketball.com forums, and came up with Sean Williams as someone who might be available.

    I have now updated two of my teams (in the two leagues where Williams was still available) to include Sean Williams. The players I dropped for him in those two leagues were Nenad (I had such high hopes for him), and Walter Herrmann (another one of high hopes and painful statistics).
  • Well, I've got Williams as my starting center in the CBS 30 man league, but I'm guessing your league doesn't go 300 players deep.

    I'll give it up to Williams, he's exciting to watch and I can see why he's getting more minutes on that Nets team. If you've got the roster spot to spare, it's worth picking him up and seeing if he can get consistent minutes every game (especially if you need the blocks).

    The problem with almost all rookies are that they're really inconsistent. So, until Williams can string together a few more of these games in a row, I'm not quite ready to believe. Of course, if you wait a few more games he could be gone by then, so grab him now if you've got a spot on your bench.
  • Joey
    what do you guys think about Sean Williams? There are words now that he may even start with Nenad hurting, his potential is obviously huge for the blocks given the minutes.
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