Comments on: Day 17 of 170: The 10% Solution http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/ this is fantasy basketball Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ken http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-1712 Ken Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:48:40 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/#comment-1712 Thanks, i did make a post looking to move one of my bigs for a guard in my league. Another monster night by kaman who is now mine. I have the player with the ugliest hair/face. Watch out. It's my first time playing keeper league..and it was draft. I used your guys cheatsheet to help me draft. It was amazing, helps to be actually prepared for once. Ken Thanks, i did make a post looking to move one of my bigs for a guard in my league. Another monster night by kaman who is now mine. I have the player with the ugliest hair/face. Watch out.

It’s my first time playing keeper league..and it was draft. I used your guys cheatsheet to help me draft. It was amazing, helps to be actually prepared for once.

Ken

]]> By: Will Shu http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-1710 Will Shu Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:13:20 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/#comment-1710 Interesting, So to think that a rookie class featuring centers with Oden and Hibbert with the guards Mayo, Rose, and Gordan is crazy. Interesting, So to think that a rookie class featuring centers with Oden and Hibbert with the guards Mayo, Rose, and Gordan is crazy.

]]> By: Patrick http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-1711 Patrick Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:09:32 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/#comment-1711 Will, I actually read through the <a href="http://www.nba.com/media/rule_book_2005-06.pdf" rel="nofollow">NBA Rule Book</a> looking for an answer to your question. There was nothing about it there (although there was quite a bit about how timeouts work. Fascinating stuff). According to speculation <a href="http://mikebarrettsblog.blogspot.com/2007/09/long-day.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, <a href="http://www.knickerblogger.net/2007/09/14/trying-to-avoid-sam-bowie/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2007/09/no_rest_or_complaints_for_an_m.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>, it would seem that yes, Oden would be a rookie next season as long as he didn't play in a game this season. That makes sense to me. Professional baseball players are considered rookies as long as they play less than a certain amount of games in the major leagues. So, if Oden plays 0 games, I would consider him a rookie. Will, I actually read through the NBA Rule Book looking for an answer to your question. There was nothing about it there (although there was quite a bit about how timeouts work. Fascinating stuff). According to speculation here, here, and here, it would seem that yes, Oden would be a rookie next season as long as he didn’t play in a game this season. That makes sense to me. Professional baseball players are considered rookies as long as they play less than a certain amount of games in the major leagues. So, if Oden plays 0 games, I would consider him a rookie.

]]> By: Will Shu http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-1709 Will Shu Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:11:46 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/#comment-1709 I have a question that no one seems to answer. If oden doesn't play this year, then is he considered a rookie the next year when he plays? TJ Ford, drafted in 2003 was supposed to be a sophomore in 2005. but since he missed a season, he came back a played the rookie vs sophomore game in 2006. http://www.nba.com/allstar2006/rookie_challenge/ I have a question that no one seems to answer. If oden doesn’t play this year, then is he considered a rookie the next year when he plays? TJ Ford, drafted in 2003 was supposed to be a sophomore in 2005. but since he missed a season, he came back a played the rookie vs sophomore game in 2006.

http://www.nba.com/allstar2006/rookie_challenge/

]]> By: Nels http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-1708 Nels Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:03:54 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/#comment-1708 I didn't refresh until I left my comment and then I saw Patrick's. So, yeah, if you're going to trade for a big man, Horford for Kaman is a good deal for you. I agree with Patrick there. I still stick with my idea though, to trade for someone who will give you some small ball stats. Of course... If you combine our thinking... you could probably trade for Kaman, and then trade him for a small baller, and you'd probably get a better player than if you just tried to trade Horford for a small baller. How's that? I didn’t refresh until I left my comment and then I saw Patrick’s. So, yeah, if you’re going to trade for a big man, Horford for Kaman is a good deal for you. I agree with Patrick there.

I still stick with my idea though, to trade for someone who will give you some small ball stats.

Of course… If you combine our thinking… you could probably trade for Kaman, and then trade him for a small baller, and you’d probably get a better player than if you just tried to trade Horford for a small baller.

How’s that?

]]> By: Nels http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-1707 Nels Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:00:31 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/#comment-1707 I'd say if you've already got that many bigs, try trading Horford (or any of those other guys except Chandler and Jefferson) for some other kinds of players. Especially if you're doing roto... If it's H2H, then maybe you want to just dominate everybody in Pts, Rebs, and Blks. Right there you've got your SF (Barg), PF (Jefferson if he qualifies), and 2 Centers at least. If you've got 2 Util spots then that's practically your whole lineup right there. I don't see how adding or swapping a big man is going to help you out. I’d say if you’ve already got that many bigs, try trading Horford (or any of those other guys except Chandler and Jefferson) for some other kinds of players. Especially if you’re doing roto… If it’s H2H, then maybe you want to just dominate everybody in Pts, Rebs, and Blks. Right there you’ve got your SF (Barg), PF (Jefferson if he qualifies), and 2 Centers at least. If you’ve got 2 Util spots then that’s practically your whole lineup right there. I don’t see how adding or swapping a big man is going to help you out.

]]> By: Patrick http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-1706 Patrick Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:34:52 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/#comment-1706 Hey Ken - many thanks for the complement - and feel free to throw out questions wherever. Nels and I will find them and be happy to make stuff up and pass it off as insider knowledge. Anyway, if I understand you correctly, I would absolutely trade Horford for Kaman. I play in a keeper league myself and the one thing I've learned over the past five years is that you really have to play for this year. First, it's more fun. Second, who knows what's going to happen next week, never mind next year. Third, as you said, you won't be keeping Horford (that's huge) and you have an excess of big men. Fourth, while Horford is having a great rookie year, Kaman is a proven commodity. If I remember correctly, while his 06-07 was a little disappointing, he finished the 05-06 season ranked somewhere in the 50-60 range on the GMTR player rater. Personally, I think Kaman is in for a great season. People might be worried that Kaman's role will be reduced when Brand returns, but as I said, Kaman was solid 2 years ago while playing alongside Brand. Go for it before the other owner reconsiders. Hey Ken – many thanks for the complement – and feel free to throw out questions wherever. Nels and I will find them and be happy to make stuff up and pass it off as insider knowledge.

Anyway, if I understand you correctly, I would absolutely trade Horford for Kaman. I play in a keeper league myself and the one thing I’ve learned over the past five years is that you really have to play for this year. First, it’s more fun. Second, who knows what’s going to happen next week, never mind next year. Third, as you said, you won’t be keeping Horford (that’s huge) and you have an excess of big men. Fourth, while Horford is having a great rookie year, Kaman is a proven commodity. If I remember correctly, while his 06-07 was a little disappointing, he finished the 05-06 season ranked somewhere in the 50-60 range on the GMTR player rater. Personally, I think Kaman is in for a great season.

People might be worried that Kaman’s role will be reduced when Brand returns, but as I said, Kaman was solid 2 years ago while playing alongside Brand. Go for it before the other owner reconsiders.

]]> By: Ken http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-1705 Ken Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:47:22 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/#comment-1705 Love the blog. Just ran into it this year. Got a lot of good info here, keep it up. I have a fantasy trade Q which I'm not sure where the proper place to put it. I just remember you inviting any fantasy questions. So here's mine.. Someone is offering me chris kaman for Al horford, should I take it? It's a 3 year keeper league with the standard 9 cats. I can only keep 3 players and horford would not be one of them. I do have an excess of pf/centers (chandler, bargnani, al jefferson, curry, ratliff, bogut). Thanks Ken Love the blog. Just ran into it this year. Got a lot of good info here, keep it up.

I have a fantasy trade Q which I’m not sure where the proper place to put it. I just remember you inviting any fantasy questions. So here’s mine..

Someone is offering me chris kaman for Al horford, should I take it? It’s a 3 year keeper league with the standard 9 cats. I can only keep 3 players and horford would not be one of them. I do have an excess of pf/centers (chandler, bargnani, al jefferson, curry, ratliff, bogut).

Thanks
Ken

]]> By: Nels http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-1704 Nels Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:25:13 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/#comment-1704 Funny you should bring that up Joey. I was actually just looking for someone to suggest as a Blocker over on the fantasybasketball.com forums, and came up with Sean Williams as someone who might be available. I have now updated two of my teams (in the two leagues where Williams was still available) to include Sean Williams. The players I dropped for him in those two leagues were Nenad (I had such high hopes for him), and Walter Herrmann (another one of high hopes and painful statistics). Funny you should bring that up Joey. I was actually just looking for someone to suggest as a Blocker over on the fantasybasketball.com forums, and came up with Sean Williams as someone who might be available.

I have now updated two of my teams (in the two leagues where Williams was still available) to include Sean Williams. The players I dropped for him in those two leagues were Nenad (I had such high hopes for him), and Walter Herrmann (another one of high hopes and painful statistics).

]]> By: Patrick http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-1703 Patrick Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:25:45 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/2007/11/16/day-17-of-170-the-10-solution/#comment-1703 Well, I've got Williams as my starting center in the CBS 30 man league, but I'm guessing your league doesn't go 300 players deep. I'll give it up to Williams, he's exciting to watch and I can see why he's getting more minutes on that Nets team. If you've got the roster spot to spare, it's worth picking him up and seeing if he can get consistent minutes every game (especially if you need the blocks). The problem with almost all rookies are that they're really inconsistent. So, until Williams can string together a few more of these games in a row, I'm not quite ready to believe. Of course, if you wait a few more games he could be gone by then, so grab him now if you've got a spot on your bench. Well, I’ve got Williams as my starting center in the CBS 30 man league, but I’m guessing your league doesn’t go 300 players deep.

I’ll give it up to Williams, he’s exciting to watch and I can see why he’s getting more minutes on that Nets team. If you’ve got the roster spot to spare, it’s worth picking him up and seeing if he can get consistent minutes every game (especially if you need the blocks).

The problem with almost all rookies are that they’re really inconsistent. So, until Williams can string together a few more of these games in a row, I’m not quite ready to believe. Of course, if you wait a few more games he could be gone by then, so grab him now if you’ve got a spot on your bench.

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