Comments on: Top 7 Players who will be taken too soon

By: Patrick

Patrick — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:25:32 +0000

With regards to Deron Williams, he is particularly hurt by turnovers. He was tied for 3rd in the league last year with 3.4 a game. He’s a much better draft pick if you’re not playing in a league that counts TOs. Not #9, but a second rounder. But in a TO league, I’d stay away.

By: Jeff W

Jeff W — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:39:41 +0000

bucko – good point, thanks. With FSPI, I do look at the list and say, for example, “Baron Davis is #5, but I’m still nervous about his health history” or “J-Rich is 8th, but I just don’t like him that much” kind of thing.

I will also consider GMTR’s rater and basketballmonster.com, as you suggested.

By: bucko

bucko — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:59:27 +0000

Jeff, FSPI doesn’t count turnovers, most leagues do. FSPI also puts a lot of weight into games played in the last season. There are many players that got hurt last season, but have been consistently healthy in their career, i.e Shawn Marion that are way too low on FSPI. The player rater here is pretty solid, so is the one at basketballmonster.com.

By: Jeff W

Jeff W — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:59:15 +0000

Do you think Deron Williams is overhyped? According to FSPI (combined) for last season, Williams is 9th on the list. Sure, you take injuries and such into account for next season (i.e. Elton Brand), but using FSPI in my predraft rankings has worked well for me so far.

Agreed on Calderon and Yao, though.

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:36:14 +0000

Good thoughts here; I will say, however, that Josh Smith is well worth a second-round pick. I took him in the 2nd last season in 2 of my leagues… and I won all three of my leagues.

By: terrance

terrance — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:56:57 +0000

i think d howard should be #1. tmac was a good choice from dyeyk. I like calderoon, but wont take him unless im drafting late in the 3rd. Hes not a sleeper and i think you could find a more valuable piece to your team in the 3rd. Lots of PGs you could get later. Calderon was valuable last year because you could pick up a top 20 player from the FA pool. Now hes a top 36 pick and that will diminish the impact he had from a season ago.

The calderons, david west, kevin martin, boris diaws happen every season! What makes it tough to grab them is one desire to hold on to their own sleepers that they drafted. Sometimes a manager believes so strongly in one of their sleepers ( swift, tyrus thomas, name someone else) that they cant cut ties thinking that theyll be that manager who cut the prized pickup of the season. Trust me I know, I dropped Al jefferson about 2 weeks before he blew up in beantown 2 or 3 years ago for ahem…..jorge garbahosa. It wasnt a mistake on my part, garbahosa waas getting the minutes and jefferson wasnt. So have a short leash on your 12th and 13th round picks and be quick to grab anyone who shows promise before october 5th. Thats a good date to judge players. The teams are three games in and rotations are getting set. The 5th is too late in a private league though, you have to be on top of the game in a private league. say october 2nd or 3rd lol

By: bucko

bucko — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:35:43 +0000

I agree completely with numbers 1-6. Now number 7 I think you couldn’t be more wrong. Lets take a deeper look into the awesomeness that is Danny Granger(I admittedly might have a little man crush on this guy).

1. Danny Granger finished 17th last year.

2. If you look at the time after Jermaine O’Neal was out of the picture, Granger ranked 5th overall in the last 90 days of the season with per game numbers of 22.3 points, 2.6 threes, 6.3 boards, 2.3 assists, 1.3 steals, and 1.1 blocks.

3. O’Neal is completely gone

4. T.J Ford was added to the Pacers giving Granger a legit point guard.

5. Granger has gotten better each year he has been in the NBA.

Now, knowing these facts I can’t see how Granger could possibly be worse than he was last year. He does have the potential to be much better, he showed that in the last 3 months of the season.

Granger is projecting as a mid-second round pick in drafts. He is being drafted in a conservative spot, definitely not to high.

You call him “last year’s hot player” as if he has been in the league a dozen years and put up a career year or contract year or something. This is not the case, Granger is a young player that is developing into a stud in the NBA. Last year was the first year he was “The Guy” in Indiana for the entire season.

By: Nels

Nels — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:06:13 +0000

Tmac! Yes!

Calderon might be taken too high since I’m sure people have high expectations… but at the same time, he could meet those expectations, so I’m not ready to put him with the rest of these guys.

I’ve actually been getting negative feedback about having Bynum ranked so high on the Big Board and his write up in the Draft Guide, so I don’t feel like he’s overly hyped at this point. I’m guessing that a lot of people feel he won’t be as good as last season now that Pau Gasol will be on the court at the same time.

By: dyeyk2000

dyeyk2000 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:33:06 +0000

How about:

tmac – always has been picked on his reputation rather than on production

calderon – frankly i don’t know where to slot him this year. he’s gonna be good but how good?

bynum – oh gosh everybody so wants to ride on this train right now. potential boom or bust player right here.