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		<title>By: terrance</title>
		<link>http://givemetherock.com/2008/09/22/carnival-of-the-nba-60-etc/comment-page-1/#comment-2286</link>
		<dc:creator>terrance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fellas, i can&#039;t tolerate the tie between who Id rather beat in fantasy basketball. somethings gotta give</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fellas, i can&#8217;t tolerate the tie between who Id rather beat in fantasy basketball. somethings gotta give</p>
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		<title>By: Evil E</title>
		<link>http://givemetherock.com/2008/09/22/carnival-of-the-nba-60-etc/comment-page-1/#comment-2298</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nels - Has your site been hacked before? What type of precautions do you take so it doesn&#039;t happen? Is it just a matter of changing permissions?

Hey Patrick - You&#039;re right, that was a cheap shot. But would you rather I dissect your rankings thoroughly and explain everything I disagree with? If I have the time, I&#039;ll be more than happy to do that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nels &#8211; Has your site been hacked before? What type of precautions do you take so it doesn&#8217;t happen? Is it just a matter of changing permissions?</p>
<p>Hey Patrick &#8211; You&#8217;re right, that was a cheap shot. But would you rather I dissect your rankings thoroughly and explain everything I disagree with? If I have the time, I&#8217;ll be more than happy to do that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://givemetherock.com/2008/09/22/carnival-of-the-nba-60-etc/comment-page-1/#comment-2285</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

Thanks for checking in! Glad you like the site and appreciate the sense of humor we have here at GMTR. I have seen a lot of what youâ€™ve done on RotoEvil and enjoy what you do. More power to you if you can get away with charging $17.99 for your guide, Iâ€™m sure that itâ€™s worth every penny, as the testimonials make clear. Every year Google Adsense sends Nels and I about $0.025 US American Dollars for our time, so as far as Iâ€™m concerned, youâ€™re living the life.

I do actually play in a money league, and have for the past 5 years. Iâ€™ve won it twice and finished in the money the other three years. Now, this league doesnâ€™t have a $650 entry fee, but considering Iâ€™m married, itâ€™s difficult to sneak $100 by my wife, much less $650. But if I ever get divorced, Iâ€™d be honored to play with the big boys in the big money league.

Now, if you donâ€™t mind, the one thing I donâ€™t appreciate about your comment is the cheap shot you take at our player rankings. It seems all too easy to go poking holes in each others player rankings. I mean, weâ€™ve all made our share of stupid calls looking back at things. Iâ€™ve seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.82games.com/fantasy/cheat100.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;your cheat sheet&lt;/a&gt; from last season, and it looks like it contains about the same amount of missed calls as anyone makes, including us. I mean, everyone knows I love Tony Parker and allâ€¦ So, youâ€™re welcome to disagree with us, just donâ€™t assume youâ€™re correct. Even Stephon Marbury thought Stephon Marbury was ranked too high in your cheat sheet last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Thanks for checking in! Glad you like the site and appreciate the sense of humor we have here at GMTR. I have seen a lot of what youâ€™ve done on RotoEvil and enjoy what you do. More power to you if you can get away with charging $17.99 for your guide, Iâ€™m sure that itâ€™s worth every penny, as the testimonials make clear. Every year Google Adsense sends Nels and I about $0.025 US American Dollars for our time, so as far as Iâ€™m concerned, youâ€™re living the life.</p>
<p>I do actually play in a money league, and have for the past 5 years. Iâ€™ve won it twice and finished in the money the other three years. Now, this league doesnâ€™t have a $650 entry fee, but considering Iâ€™m married, itâ€™s difficult to sneak $100 by my wife, much less $650. But if I ever get divorced, Iâ€™d be honored to play with the big boys in the big money league.</p>
<p>Now, if you donâ€™t mind, the one thing I donâ€™t appreciate about your comment is the cheap shot you take at our player rankings. It seems all too easy to go poking holes in each others player rankings. I mean, weâ€™ve all made our share of stupid calls looking back at things. Iâ€™ve seen <a href="http://www.82games.com/fantasy/cheat100.htm" rel="nofollow">your cheat sheet</a> from last season, and it looks like it contains about the same amount of missed calls as anyone makes, including us. I mean, everyone knows I love Tony Parker and allâ€¦ So, youâ€™re welcome to disagree with us, just donâ€™t assume youâ€™re correct. Even Stephon Marbury thought Stephon Marbury was ranked too high in your cheat sheet last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Nels</title>
		<link>http://givemetherock.com/2008/09/22/carnival-of-the-nba-60-etc/comment-page-1/#comment-2299</link>
		<dc:creator>Nels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to make sure no one thinks I&#039;m trying to pull shennanis here, there was an additional comment from Evil E and one from me as well. They were erased when the site got hacked on Sept 25, 2008. There are comments missing from a couple other posts too. And I just had to go through and reset the permissions on all the photos that are hosted on the GMTR server. Could be worse, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to make sure no one thinks I&#8217;m trying to pull shennanis here, there was an additional comment from Evil E and one from me as well. They were erased when the site got hacked on Sept 25, 2008. There are comments missing from a couple other posts too. And I just had to go through and reset the permissions on all the photos that are hosted on the GMTR server. Could be worse, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Nels</title>
		<link>http://givemetherock.com/2008/09/22/carnival-of-the-nba-60-etc/comment-page-1/#comment-2290</link>
		<dc:creator>Nels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, I&#039;ve added some clarifying language to the post. I only put it that way originally because Patrick and I were considering charging $4-5 for our guide (and I&#039;m sure the price:quality ratio would account for the difference between our guide and yours), but decided since it was the first year we&#039;d done it, that we&#039;d just give it away as a form of advertising. It was meant, as is pretty much everything I write, as a self-deprecating piece of humor, but I realize that without any body language or verbal cues, that it could have been interpreted in all sorts of different ways.

As far as the money leagues go, I just finished a post where I mentioned that I don&#039;t play in money leagues and acknowledge by insinuation that they almost certainly &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; more competitive. And while I do maintain that the GMTR Readers&#039; League last year was as intense as any money league is likely to be, that doesn&#039;t make me want to pick up a $650 guantlet just because you call my rankings Jarlsberg cheese (I did like the cleverness there, though). You say that we seem serious about fantasy hoops, but as far as I&#039;m concerned (don&#039;t know about Patrick), that couldn&#039;t be further from the truth. I am totally &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; serious about it. I just love NBA basketball, and I like looking at the numbers, and I like writing about it so I can make little jokes (usually at the expense of myself or players who get millions of dollars, and not at the expense of people who &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; serious about it). I play fantasy basketball for fun, and as an escape from the everyday stresses of my job (and thoughts as to where my country is headed economically, how much my property taxes are going to go up this year, and if my car will start in the morning). Hope you understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, I&#8217;ve added some clarifying language to the post. I only put it that way originally because Patrick and I were considering charging $4-5 for our guide (and I&#8217;m sure the price:quality ratio would account for the difference between our guide and yours), but decided since it was the first year we&#8217;d done it, that we&#8217;d just give it away as a form of advertising. It was meant, as is pretty much everything I write, as a self-deprecating piece of humor, but I realize that without any body language or verbal cues, that it could have been interpreted in all sorts of different ways.</p>
<p>As far as the money leagues go, I just finished a post where I mentioned that I don&#8217;t play in money leagues and acknowledge by insinuation that they almost certainly <em>are</em> more competitive. And while I do maintain that the GMTR Readers&#8217; League last year was as intense as any money league is likely to be, that doesn&#8217;t make me want to pick up a $650 guantlet just because you call my rankings Jarlsberg cheese (I did like the cleverness there, though). You say that we seem serious about fantasy hoops, but as far as I&#8217;m concerned (don&#8217;t know about Patrick), that couldn&#8217;t be further from the truth. I am totally <em>not</em> serious about it. I just love NBA basketball, and I like looking at the numbers, and I like writing about it so I can make little jokes (usually at the expense of myself or players who get millions of dollars, and not at the expense of people who <em>are</em> serious about it). I play fantasy basketball for fun, and as an escape from the everyday stresses of my job (and thoughts as to where my country is headed economically, how much my property taxes are going to go up this year, and if my car will start in the morning). Hope you understand.</p>
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		<title>By: RotoEvil</title>
		<link>http://givemetherock.com/2008/09/22/carnival-of-the-nba-60-etc/comment-page-1/#comment-2301</link>
		<dc:creator>RotoEvil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, I appreciate you mentioning my site, but it&#039;s Eric, not Erik. Not that I care about that...

I DO care that you&#039;re insinuating that I&#039;m overcharging for my draft guide, or even that your guide is on the same level as mine. Granted, I haven&#039;t seen yours, but I have seen your Position Rankings, and I think they&#039;re filled with more holes than Jarlsberg cheese.

I&#039;ve had many readers tell me that they&#039;d pay a lot more for my analysis, and while my guide is priced a little bit higher than others, that&#039;s because I&#039;m confident it will be more valuable than any other guide out there. If there was a way to track how users of my guide fare compared to users of other guides, I would gladly partake in such a study...

And since you guys seem to be serious about fantasy hoops, I&#039;d like to challenge you to in the &quot;National Fantasy Basketball Championship.&quot; The entry fee is $650. Each league champ gets $3,500 and the overall champ gets an extra $2,500 or more.

The leagues are run by Greg Ambrosious, who is a 2001 Fantasy Sports Hall of Fame inductee and founder of the original $100,000 National Fantasy Baseball &amp; Football Championships.

I have a lot of respect for what you guys do, but I think that if you&#039;re going to talk the talk, you should walk the walk as well. I would also love to take on other top fantasy hoops sites, so click here to sign up!

http://nffcboards.stats.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000028</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, I appreciate you mentioning my site, but it&#8217;s Eric, not Erik. Not that I care about that&#8230;</p>
<p>I DO care that you&#8217;re insinuating that I&#8217;m overcharging for my draft guide, or even that your guide is on the same level as mine. Granted, I haven&#8217;t seen yours, but I have seen your Position Rankings, and I think they&#8217;re filled with more holes than Jarlsberg cheese.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had many readers tell me that they&#8217;d pay a lot more for my analysis, and while my guide is priced a little bit higher than others, that&#8217;s because I&#8217;m confident it will be more valuable than any other guide out there. If there was a way to track how users of my guide fare compared to users of other guides, I would gladly partake in such a study&#8230;</p>
<p>And since you guys seem to be serious about fantasy hoops, I&#8217;d like to challenge you to in the &#8220;National Fantasy Basketball Championship.&#8221; The entry fee is $650. Each league champ gets $3,500 and the overall champ gets an extra $2,500 or more.</p>
<p>The leagues are run by Greg Ambrosious, who is a 2001 Fantasy Sports Hall of Fame inductee and founder of the original $100,000 National Fantasy Baseball &amp; Football Championships.</p>
<p>I have a lot of respect for what you guys do, but I think that if you&#8217;re going to talk the talk, you should walk the walk as well. I would also love to take on other top fantasy hoops sites, so click here to sign up!</p>
<p><a href="http://nffcboards.stats.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000028" rel="nofollow">http://nffcboards.stats.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000028</a></p>
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		<title>By: dyeyk2000</title>
		<link>http://givemetherock.com/2008/09/22/carnival-of-the-nba-60-etc/comment-page-1/#comment-2289</link>
		<dc:creator>dyeyk2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>regarding making the mock draft into a real league...

i was actually thinking about suggesting that idea as soon as the draft is over. would be great since this draft should be almost devoid of panic picks so should be more competitive.

about the no trading thing.. hmm. i dunno. where&#039;s the fun in that? yeah it would make sense from a &quot;who&#039;s the best drafter&quot; perspective, but we could always follow league movements at the end of the year and evalate the drafts in hindsight (and maybe how a certain draft technique is flexible enough to evolve throughout the year)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regarding making the mock draft into a real league&#8230;</p>
<p>i was actually thinking about suggesting that idea as soon as the draft is over. would be great since this draft should be almost devoid of panic picks so should be more competitive.</p>
<p>about the no trading thing.. hmm. i dunno. where&#8217;s the fun in that? yeah it would make sense from a &#8220;who&#8217;s the best drafter&#8221; perspective, but we could always follow league movements at the end of the year and evalate the drafts in hindsight (and maybe how a certain draft technique is flexible enough to evolve throughout the year)</p>
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		<title>By: Nels</title>
		<link>http://givemetherock.com/2008/09/22/carnival-of-the-nba-60-etc/comment-page-1/#comment-2288</link>
		<dc:creator>Nels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so we&#039;re clear, I noticed that Yahoo was up before reading comments on the blog this morning.

Terrance: I will poll the mock draftsters to see about the idea of making the mock draft into a league. Part of the problem is that there would have to be no trades and no free agent pick ups if we really wanted to see the results of the draft.

We are also toying with the idea of having 2 Readers&#039; Leagues if there&#039;s enough interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so we&#8217;re clear, I noticed that Yahoo was up before reading comments on the blog this morning.</p>
<p>Terrance: I will poll the mock draftsters to see about the idea of making the mock draft into a league. Part of the problem is that there would have to be no trades and no free agent pick ups if we really wanted to see the results of the draft.</p>
<p>We are also toying with the idea of having 2 Readers&#8217; Leagues if there&#8217;s enough interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://givemetherock.com/2008/09/22/carnival-of-the-nba-60-etc/comment-page-1/#comment-2287</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey terrance, since I&#039;m not mock drafting, that decision will be up to Nels. But, yeah, a lot of times people will run mock drafts as actual leagues, if enough of the mock drafters agree to it.

What usually happens in these types of leagues is that certain people get more into it than others and the people who are more active on the waiver wire usually win the league. Although we do know that GMTR readers tend to be pretty hardcore, so the league might become pretty competitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey terrance, since I&#8217;m not mock drafting, that decision will be up to Nels. But, yeah, a lot of times people will run mock drafts as actual leagues, if enough of the mock drafters agree to it.</p>
<p>What usually happens in these types of leagues is that certain people get more into it than others and the people who are more active on the waiver wire usually win the league. Although we do know that GMTR readers tend to be pretty hardcore, so the league might become pretty competitive.</p>
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		<title>By: terrance</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey patrick and nels. Would there be any interest in Running a readers league and also running a league with our mock draft picks? I would be interested in seeing how our practice teams ended up finishing?

Has something like that been done before? I know dropping dimes has their mocks, so does fantasy basketball cafe, full court press, fantasy basketblog had one last season. Theres so many more sits that do the mocks, but have they ever created a yahoo league and see who exactly had the best draft?

The mock draft sites break down the drafts but never get to see them come to fruition. After all, all we will be able to do is evaluate and project who had the best draft, but who really knows until a champion is declared.

If that doesnt work, I will personally but a mock draft trophy and a readers league trophy to send to each winner at the end of the season to congratulate them. It will be engraved and everything. I know you guys remember coach pitch, machine pitch, and kid pitch baseball as a kid. Trophies are what its all about!

Anyways, just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey patrick and nels. Would there be any interest in Running a readers league and also running a league with our mock draft picks? I would be interested in seeing how our practice teams ended up finishing?</p>
<p>Has something like that been done before? I know dropping dimes has their mocks, so does fantasy basketball cafe, full court press, fantasy basketblog had one last season. Theres so many more sits that do the mocks, but have they ever created a yahoo league and see who exactly had the best draft?</p>
<p>The mock draft sites break down the drafts but never get to see them come to fruition. After all, all we will be able to do is evaluate and project who had the best draft, but who really knows until a champion is declared.</p>
<p>If that doesnt work, I will personally but a mock draft trophy and a readers league trophy to send to each winner at the end of the season to congratulate them. It will be engraved and everything. I know you guys remember coach pitch, machine pitch, and kid pitch baseball as a kid. Trophies are what its all about!</p>
<p>Anyways, just a thought.</p>
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