Comments on: Player Tiers – Shooting Guards

By: Will L

Will L — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:15:42 +0000

Thanks for the advice guys.

By: Mike Miracle

Mike Miracle — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:12:49 +0000

Hey if you want to look at a league and play around with the RSB Fantasy Software follow this:
http://www.realsportsbloggers.com/leagues/basketball/fantasyleagu/
On the lower left of the page there is a COMMISH ADMIN link. Click that and the password is www

Play with it and see what you think.

Mike

By: Mike Plugh

Mike Plugh — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:51:19 +0000

Yeah, Terrance. It is one of the hardest things to do, but years of coming in 2nd, 3rd, or last will eventually force you to come to terms with it if you want to win. In my 12+ years of playing fantasy sports I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve come in 2nd. This year I was 3rd in both my fantasy baseball leagues. Separating the players from their SportsCenter images is the first, and most important point in being a winning GM.

By: terrance

terrance — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:42:58 +0000

had a roto draft today in a yahoo competitive league. heres the first round picks. about 10 or the 12 managers were present.

lebron
paul
bryant
amare
wade
brand (me)
garnett
dirk
butler
davis
granger
bosh

@ mike “This is not a game of players as much as it is a game of projected statistical outcomes. Erase the names and go by the numbers. ”

Thats great advice! It’s still one of the hardest things to do.

By: Mike Plugh

Mike Plugh — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:11:10 +0000

Also, the common wisdom on early picks is to take the best available players, regardless of position and then fill out the roster with complimentary players in the cats you are trying to win as the rounds move along. The season is won in the middle rounds for the most part. Know what cats you’re going to go for before you make a single pick, have an alternate combination of cats ready in case the draft provides some surprises, and stick to your guns.

Good luck.

By: Mike Plugh

Mike Plugh — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:01:23 +0000

Calderon as a 1st rounder is a huge stretch. Picking him at 12 would go against most pre-season rankings and would also go against the average draft position logic that has him closer to 25-30 than to 10-15. Bynum may warrant the 13th pick next year or the year after, but he’s also being picked too high in this scenario.

The question you have to ask yourself is, “Can I get either of these player, or their rough equivalent, later? If I pass up established fantasy 1st rounders for these guys, am I guaranteed that they’re going to give me the same value?”

The answer to the 1st part is yes. The answer to the 2nd part is no. That in and of itself tells you what you need to know. One of the most important bits of fantasy wisdom out there is, “don’t get hung up on particular players.” This is not a game of players as much as it is a game of projected statistical outcomes. Erase the names and go by the numbers. The names only help you to get a sense of the injury history(Baron Davis, Marcus Camby), temperment(Ron Artest), or the status on his own team(#1 guy or role player).

At the 12th and 13th pick, you’d be much better off going with Nash and Camby, or Billups and Iverson than Calderon and Bynum. You can get one of the less-established guys, or someone like them, easily in the 3rd and 4th round.

By: Patrick

Patrick — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:50:28 +0000

Thanks for the love, Will.

I basically agree with Nels on this one. It might not be a completely retarded idea, just a crazy one. I love Bynum and Calderon too, but I’d probably aimed to pick them up in the 3rd and 4th rounds rather than the 1st and 2nd.

And I love the large ball idea, someone should try that strategy in a league. I’m not sure if it’s a winner, I don’t think the team has a chance at winning points, assists, or FT%. Maybe in an H2H league it could work. Someone should experiment with it.

By: Nels

Nels — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:20:33 +0000

@Will, I like the second idea a lot better. Your first idea just reeks of irrational love. If you want to have a team you really like that might not win, then sure, go for Bynum and Calderon. They’re probably not going to be good enough to justify those picks, but they will almost certainly be gone by the time you get your 3rd pick. As you point out, though, there’s players who are much more likely to produce at that level, and justify those picks. Maybe just take the guys you should take at 12th and 13th (Iverson, Billups, Big Al, and Rashard would be my targets) and then try trading them for the guys you want, plus a little something else. If you know the other owners well enough, you could even try talking someone into trading up so you can trade down and get some picks closer together and closer to where the guys you want are.

As for the other question… you could win Blocks, Steals, Rebounds, and Points, but I’m not sure what your 5th category would be. You might win FG% or 3s or TOs against the right teams, but probably not with enough consistency for a championship.

By: Will L

Will L — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:43:36 +0000

Another idea:

Would it be stupid to go for Camby, Josh Smith, Gerald Wallace, Rasheed Wallace (or Artest), and Kirilenko?

I’d have low points, but lots of hustle!

Would a team like this have a shot at winning?

By: Will L

Will L — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:35:08 +0000

Hi, I love what you guys do here.

I’m in a yahoo! 12-team H2H 9 category league and I have the 12th pick. Do you think I would be crazy to take Calderon and Bynum 1st (12th) and 2nd (13th)? Would I be retarded to pass over players like

Bosh (he’ll probably be gone)
B-Diddy
AI
Billups
Deron
Camby
Nash
Pau
Big Al
Rashard
Yao
Duncan
Rudy Gay
Paul Pierce
Iguodala
and Josh Smith?

I had both JosÃ© and Andrew on my team last year, and they seem like they’re gonna be great this year. Am I thinking too highly of them?