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Matt Barnes over Grant Hill: This is why I'm not an NBA coach

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Categorized as: Author: Nels, Diatribes, Fantasy Basketball, Fantasy Draft Guide Mojo 2008, GMTR Leagues, GMTR Readers 08-09, Phoenix Suns
Posted on: October 24th, 2008

Well, this and many other reasons, I’m sure.

Now… I must note that the following discussion does take place regarding a league in which Kirk Hinrich and Larry Hughes were (until recently) fighting for a starting SG spot while a superior talent (unfortuntely, Ben Gordon) didn’t even enter into the picture. That said…

Does Terry Porter realize that Grant Hill is better than Matt Barnes? I know he wants to stabilize his second string lineup, but, does he also realize that he’s screwing me as fantasy owner over? I just drafted Hill (and I did look at Barnes before making the pick), and now you’re telling me that instead of the nearly 32 minutes per game he had last season, he’ll be lucky to clock in at anything near that because Matt Barnes is younger and not as good?

EXAMPLE!

Matt Barnes guarding Jeff Green:

Copyright 2008 NBAE (Photo by Barry Gossage/NBAE via Getty Images)

Grant Hill guarding Jeff Green:

Copyright 2008 NBAE (Photo by Barry Gossage/NBAE via Getty Images)

So who would you want in the game?

That’s what I thought.

So, come on Terry Porter: Skeeter/Obama 2012 (aka Epicte’s team) already had the #1 pick. He doesn’t need this sudden burst in value from Matt Barnes. I, however, who took Grant Hill in the 9th round, do need him to shoot his high percentages, and score some points, and get some steals.

For anyone else still looking for draft advice: I believe it’s time to bump Hill down a few notches and move Barnes up a corresponding number. I’d still go with Hill over Barnes because his percentages are that much better, and they’ll probably end up with around the same amount of playing time since Porter does need Hill in the game, but unless Barnes starts shooting a ton more free throws, his 74% (career 70%) won’t really hurt you too much, and they’re fairly comparable in stats that don’t end in “entage.”

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  • max
    No Way!!!
    Barnes is definitely a better player!
    sure, Hills defense is a little bit better but Hill cant shoot worth shit and is probably the least clutch player in the game! I just watched him fuck us over after missing three shots in a row (one of which being a layup while UNGUARDED!!!) with two minutes to go opposing team up by two. Barnes can actually pull off three's also.
  • John
    true that shit i jsut picked up matt barnes in my league...he's gunna do good and hits mad 3's which helps me out and gets decent rebounds..and grant isnt as important as matt is to the team...in my opinion cuz he is young and quiker..if it was grant hill from like 8 years ago grant hill would hav this in the bag easily.
  • looks like the links didnt get posted, heres what it was supposed to say,

    Grant Hill on Offense:
    http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/097L2O1etef...

    Matt Barnes on Offense:
    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1085/764985774_6...

    I'm just playin, I hate coaches too, they never think about us fantasy managers.
  • Snapper Jones! I can't believe I was just hit with a pre-merger reference. Thanks, Doney. At the very most, 2RR is Jones' season with the Blazers...
  • Doneycat
    B,

    Don't sell yourself short - you're the Snapper Jones of fantasy hoops blogs. Just create some fake arguments with GMTR.

    BTW, I was in a history class with Grant Hill in college. I feel quite old. I could probably be replaced by Matt Barnes as well.
  • I'm not really in an insult--->injury-type mood, but this first week is going to hurt, Nels. And since I have both Matt Barnes and Jeff Green on my team, I am tempted to make the classic Barnes 'guarding' Green picture my new team icon.

    But, yeah - Grant Hill is 87 years old. You knew that.

    Microball represent.
  • Not to be a jerk or anything, but didn't you expect Barnes to take over as starter when Hill misses 20 games this year? I'm really not being snarky- I think Barnes was a good pick for this season as a hustle guy to do a little bit of what Raja and Diaw used to.

    Also, if GMTR is the Bill Walton of fantasy blogging, does that mean 2RR has to be Luke Walton? 'Cause I've got enough crazy chicks in my life.
  • terrance
    "barnes guarding jeff green". i laughed.

    i just traded redd and ty thomas for mike conley and kevin durant.

    back to the post, so the suns run barbosa, hill, diaw and robin lopez out there for the second team. that team could run with some of mediocre teams out there. not a bad bench.

    i remember about 4 years ago when sam bojangles mitchell had alston, vince carter, donyell marshall, bosh, and jalen rose. that shouldve been teh starting five, but rose and marshall werent out there. they use to be good believe it or not.

    isaiah thomas ODed on sleeping pills, thats interesting.

    jamal crawford is back in the starting lineup tonight.
  • DS
    Hill is 56 with gimpy knees, ankles, etc. They're preserving him by starting Barnes. Barnes was very impressive when given time last season in GS, and prob. a better play right now than Grandpa Grant.
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