Comments on: A Small Percentage of Help: The Best and Worst Shooters in the NBA http://givemetherock.com/2009/01/31/a-small-percentage-of-help-the-best-and-worst-shooters-in-the-nba/ this is fantasy basketball Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:02:31 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Give Me The Rock » Day 98 of 170: Al Jefferson Beast Mode http://givemetherock.com/2009/01/31/a-small-percentage-of-help-the-best-and-worst-shooters-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-3585 Give Me The Rock » Day 98 of 170: Al Jefferson Beast Mode Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:35:34 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/?p=2940#comment-3585 [...] pretty impressive. Dwight Howard and LeBron James both also had impressive looking lines, but their free throw shooting dropped them down the list. Of course, if you’re punting FT%, then who cares, [...] [...] pretty impressive. Dwight Howard and LeBron James both also had impressive looking lines, but their free throw shooting dropped them down the list. Of course, if you’re punting FT%, then who cares, [...]

]]> By: watch http://givemetherock.com/2009/01/31/a-small-percentage-of-help-the-best-and-worst-shooters-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-3582 watch Mon, 02 Feb 2009 05:07:36 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/?p=2940#comment-3582 time for a GMTR article on punting categories? I dont even pay attention to turnovers and I am usually near the bottom of FT% because i go for the big men in the early rounds but i am still in first because i dominate the countable stats. For example, DWade has more turnovers than any player in the game but he is ranked #5 in yahoo (Nash, paul, lebron, and kobe are not far behind); and if you look at the standings in your league i can almost promise that the teams leading in TO are at the bottom overall (teams that dont set their lineup regularly). The point is that good players turn the ball over more. time for a GMTR article on punting categories? I dont even pay attention to turnovers and I am usually near the bottom of FT% because i go for the big men in the early rounds but i am still in first because i dominate the countable stats. For example, DWade has more turnovers than any player in the game but he is ranked #5 in yahoo (Nash, paul, lebron, and kobe are not far behind); and if you look at the standings in your league i can almost promise that the teams leading in TO are at the bottom overall (teams that dont set their lineup regularly). The point is that good players turn the ball over more.

]]> By: Ryan http://givemetherock.com/2009/01/31/a-small-percentage-of-help-the-best-and-worst-shooters-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-3583 Ryan Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:11:18 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/?p=2940#comment-3583 Agree. Sometimes you just have to punt categories. Agree. Sometimes you just have to punt categories.

]]> By: Patrick http://givemetherock.com/2009/01/31/a-small-percentage-of-help-the-best-and-worst-shooters-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-3584 Patrick Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:50:30 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/?p=2940#comment-3584 Yes, you are absolutely right, which is why Howard is ranked at #9 on our rater despite being the worst FT shooter in the league. The one thing you do have to take into account (especially in roto leagues) is the fact that it is very difficult not to finish at the bottom of your league in FT% if you have Howard on your team. Yes, you are absolutely right, which is why Howard is ranked at #9 on our rater despite being the worst FT shooter in the league. The one thing you do have to take into account (especially in roto leagues) is the fact that it is very difficult not to finish at the bottom of your league in FT% if you have Howard on your team.

]]> By: Patrick http://givemetherock.com/2009/01/31/a-small-percentage-of-help-the-best-and-worst-shooters-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-3589 Patrick Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:47:37 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/?p=2940#comment-3589 Many thanks for the comment about the site. I’m sure that there could be a stat that is FT%+FG%, it seems easy enough to calculate, but I’m not aware of any website that currently tracks something like that. There is a stat called true shooting percentage (TS%), which is: PTS / (2 * (FGA + 0.44 * FTA)) TS% seems to be more a measure of shooting efficiency as it relates to how effectively a player can score than a measure of fantasy performance. John Hollinger <a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics?sort=tsp&pos=all&seasonType=2&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fhollinger%2fstatistics%3fsort%3dtsp%26pos%3dall%26seasonType%3d2" target="_blank">keeps track of this stat</a> on his ESPN page if you are interested. The formula I used to calculate my numbers was: ((FG%_lg + (FG%_p – FG%_lg)*(1 + FGA_p /FGA_lg) – FG%_lg) / stdevFG_lg) + ((FT%_lg + (FT%_p – FT%_lg)*(1 + FTA_p /FTA_lg) - FT%_lg) / stdevFT_lg) where: FG%_lg = average FG% of the league FG%_p= FG% of the player FGA_lg = average FG attempts per game for the league FGA_p = FG attempts per game for the player FT%_lg = average FT% of the league FT%_p= FT% of the player FTA_lg = average FT attempts per game for the league FTA_p = FT attempts per game for the player stdevFG_lg = standard deviation of FG% for the league stdevFT_lg = standard deviation of FT% for the league You can probably see why I typically stay away from discussing my methodology in posts like this. I wouldn’t even read past that formula. However, it does leave a few people with questions about how I calculate certain things or rank players. In the formula above, I basically create weighted player percentages for field goals and free throws based on how many shots of each they take compared to the league average. Then I take those percentages and standardized them (by creating z-scores) so that they are on the same scale as each other. Then I add those two scores together. Easy, right? Many thanks for the comment about the site. I’m sure that there could be a stat that is FT%+FG%, it seems easy enough to calculate, but I’m not aware of any website that currently tracks something like that. There is a stat called true shooting percentage (TS%), which is:

PTS / (2 * (FGA + 0.44 * FTA))

TS% seems to be more a measure of shooting efficiency as it relates to how effectively a player can score than a measure of fantasy performance. John Hollinger keeps track of this stat on his ESPN page if you are interested.

The formula I used to calculate my numbers was:

((FG%_lg + (FG%_p – FG%_lg)*(1 + FGA_p /FGA_lg) – FG%_lg) / stdevFG_lg) + ((FT%_lg + (FT%_p – FT%_lg)*(1 + FTA_p /FTA_lg) – FT%_lg) / stdevFT_lg)

where: FG%_lg = average FG% of the league
FG%_p= FG% of the player
FGA_lg = average FG attempts per game for the league
FGA_p = FG attempts per game for the player
FT%_lg = average FT% of the league
FT%_p= FT% of the player
FTA_lg = average FT attempts per game for the league
FTA_p = FT attempts per game for the player
stdevFG_lg = standard deviation of FG% for the league
stdevFT_lg = standard deviation of FT% for the league

You can probably see why I typically stay away from discussing my methodology in posts like this. I wouldn’t even read past that formula. However, it does leave a few people with questions about how I calculate certain things or rank players. In the formula above, I basically create weighted player percentages for field goals and free throws based on how many shots of each they take compared to the league average. Then I take those percentages and standardized them (by creating z-scores) so that they are on the same scale as each other. Then I add those two scores together. Easy, right?

]]> By: Give Me The Rock » Day 97 of 170: Michael Redd Who? http://givemetherock.com/2009/01/31/a-small-percentage-of-help-the-best-and-worst-shooters-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-3587 Give Me The Rock » Day 97 of 170: Michael Redd Who? Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:42:06 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/?p=2940#comment-3587 [...] of the Night: It’s a proven fact that Dirk Nowitzki (1.13) can shoot. And yesterday he put on a clinic against the Heat, going 12-14 [...] [...] of the Night: It’s a proven fact that Dirk Nowitzki (1.13) can shoot. And yesterday he put on a clinic against the Heat, going 12-14 [...]

]]> By: Ryan http://givemetherock.com/2009/01/31/a-small-percentage-of-help-the-best-and-worst-shooters-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-3588 Ryan Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:07:25 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/?p=2940#comment-3588 Yes, Howard kills your FT%, but what he brings at FG% (not to mentions pts, rbs, bl) allows you to forgive that stat. Yes, Howard kills your FT%, but what he brings at FG% (not to mentions pts, rbs, bl) allows you to forgive that stat.

]]> By: Erik http://givemetherock.com/2009/01/31/a-small-percentage-of-help-the-best-and-worst-shooters-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-3586 Erik Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:32:32 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/?p=2940#comment-3586 Despite owning both Yao and Dirk in the GMTR readers league, I don't necessarily win both percentage cats. You really need to surround that core of guys with good percentage guys and NONE of the poo % boys. Despite owning both Yao and Dirk in the GMTR readers league, I don't necessarily win both percentage cats. You really need to surround that core of guys with good percentage guys and NONE of the poo % boys.

]]> By: AF6 http://givemetherock.com/2009/01/31/a-small-percentage-of-help-the-best-and-worst-shooters-in-the-nba/comment-page-1/#comment-3581 AF6 Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:48:02 +0000 http://givemetherock.com/?p=2940#comment-3581 Can you expand on this? Isnt there a stat FT%+FG% ? ( i think it is called shooting efficiency) I don't know where to find a searchable list of this stat but maybe you could list the top 20 (and a few from the bottom? Thanks alot Great site! Can you expand on this? Isnt there a stat FT%+FG% ? ( i think it is called shooting efficiency) I don't know where to find a searchable list of this stat but maybe you could list the top 20 (and a few from the bottom?
Thanks alot Great site!

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