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  • Updating My Injury Prone List

    Author Icon for Erik

    Categorized as: Author: Erik, Fantasy Basketball, Fantasy Basketball Strategy
    Posted on: February 9th, 2009

    Injuries, injuries, and yes more injuries. This year has truly been, well so far, a slobber-knocker cluster of NBA player injuries…

    Rant! Rant! Rant!

    Blah…blah…blah…

    We can bitch and whine about it all we want, but the fact of the matter is, injuries are part of the game of fantasy basketball that we play and love.

    Accidents happen. They can happen to anyone, yes even to our beloved LBJs and precious Dwight Howards (knocks on wood and throws salt over shoulder while spinning around 3 times, so it won’t actually happen).

    The thing is, however, somehow these things (injuries) happen to some more than others and more often.

    Injury Prone List? It’s a list of  names of NBA players who I put little asterisks on when I prepare for fantasy draft day. I generally bump these guys down my personal rankings and draft accordingly from there. An IP list is an essential piece of drafting material that any serious drafter/fantasy manager should have.

    Injuries aren’t considered a fantasy stat per se, although they are related to that stat that affects all the player’s stat categories – Games Played. If a player is often hurt and cannot play in NBA games, his statistical averages won’t really matter for your team, will they? When our players miss games, it really stings. It is a boost to know who to stay away from or to be cautious of drafting.

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    Just because a player missed a several games one season it doesn’t mean he will do so again in the next one. It takes a bit of research to track stuff like historical precedence and nature of past injuries. Does a particular NBA player have nagging and/or recurring injuries that may cause him to miss games regularly within a given season? Answers to all of these questions plus a dash of subjective judgement calls make up the criteria as to whether a player belongs in your IP list.

    It’s at this point in the season that I have decided to update my Injury Prone List, God forbid I forget to update it at the end of the season. But really folks, the IP list is best updated at the end of the season*. It’s just that I wanted to walk you through my thought process as I updated mine.

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    My Injury Prone List (in no particular order)

    Yao Ming – If he finishes this season missing less than 10 games, I will wait on him to repeat or improve on it next season before I move him off the list. This season looks promising, but I’m going to stop right here, lest I dare jinx things.

    Baron Davis - Last season’s 82 game performance, bumped him into this season’s IP list from my “Don’t Bother Drafting List.” If he misses anymore games this season due to injury, he gets thrown back into the DBDL. Until then, he gets to stay on the IPL.

    Caron Butler – He’s a fantasy stud, but he DOES have a bad habit of getting injured and missing games almost every season.

    Marcus Camby – Well, he’s Marcus Camby.

    Corey Maggette – See Marcus Camby.

    Andrei Kirilenko – He’s on the list’s Board of Trustees. Drafting him is like playing a game of “Russian Roulette” with the injuries you expect him to get.

    Kenyon Martin – He was sporting knee issues way before they became vogue this season.

    Tracy McGrady – When will people learn? – He is the leading candidate to make the jump into my DBDL.

    Gerald Wallace – He suffers through a variety of bumps, bruises, and other assorted injuries each year.

    Lamar Odom – Shoulder/Arm issues of the past still keep him anchored on this list until further notice.

    Dwyane Wade – If he finishes this season missing 10 games or less, then I will bump him off this list.

    Allen Iverson – He may be a fantasy disappointment so far, but he’s proving that he can work his way off the list, between last season and this one’s GPs. Honestly, I’m just not sure which A.I. I prefer; the underwhelming healthier version, or the fantasy-explosive injury risk version. I’m a bit torn here.

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    Recent Additions to the Injury Prone List and Reasons Why

    Kevin Martin – Last year’s groin tear and this season’s ankle sprain issues, leads me to consider drafting him on next season’s fantasy draft day with some caution.

    Elton Brand – He’s sadly had to join the ranks of the players above. Back-to-back seasons of poor amounts of GPs due to injury is very difficult to ignore.

    Andrew Bynum - Copy and paste notes on Elton Brand here. He is younger, but undeniably now belongs on the list.

    Chris Kaman – 56 games played last season and only 15 games played in this one, forces my hand to find a lower ranked cave for this caveman in next season’s fantasy draft.

    Michael Redd - 53 GPs in 06-07; missed 10 games in 07-08; 33 GPs this season. I am wary to hope that he will bounce back and only miss 10 games next season.

    Shaquille O’Neal – He formerly was part of the DBDL, but after he’s showed that he’s got some fantasy “usablity” left in those old big bones gets him an upgrade in status. He’s now just labeled as injury prone.

    Andrew Bogut – He may have missed only 4 games last season, but since he only had 66 GPs in 06-07 compounded by this season’s back spasms issue; he sadly must be drafted with a grain of caution next season.

    Guys on my “Don’t Bother Drafting List” due to personal biases, but should be considered in your Injury Prone Lists

    Ron Artest – Add his percentages stingers to his history of GPs, plus his capability to go off on hiatus to do things basketball unrelated like work on a rap album or get suspended for a season for inflicting bodily harm on fans… I could go on and on.

    Jermaine O’Neal – He REALLY has to prove that he can be a consistent fantasy-worthy center for his “injury prone-ness” to merit some fantasy interest on my part.

    Gilbert Arenas - He used to be on the IP List, but so far this season he’s now Agent Zero (games played). This is a tough one, but yes I am definitely passing on Gil in next season’s fantasy draft.

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    *As I said in the beginning, your Injury Prone List is best updated at the end of the season. I just hope that my thoughts in the process of updating my list have helped you better filter yours.

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    • http://intensedebate.com/people/biggs0 Patrick

      Arenas/O’Neal/Artest… hey, you just described rounds 3-5 of EVERY DRAFT I'VE EVER DONE.

      About McGrady, his injury proneness plus is underwhelming play the past couple of years has to place him at or near the don't bother drafting list, right? And I'd like your thoughts on Greg Oden. Good to go from here on out or a guy to watch out for the rest of this year and next?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/biggs0 Patrick

      And about variations in year-to-year games played. I happened to take a look at that a while back (along with the other stat cats) and found that the year-to-year correlation in games played among NBA players was 0.19 (average of 66.8 with a standard deviation of 17.4 games). So, while there is certainly some relationship between games played one year and games played in the next, it is much weaker than say blocks (correlation of 0.9), points (0.8), or even minutes (0.57).

      I didn't look to see if that relationship existed among a specific group of players or not, which is really the answer to your question.

    • http://lesterslegends.com Ryan

      The thing about A.I. though is he plays through those injuries

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Timewalker Erik

      The issue with Greg is that he started off injured (missing his first year as a pro). I really feel that we have to observe his fantasy value at season's end and evaluate from there if he is worth labeling or not. But from a pure injury standpoint, I would have to call him out as an injury prone player.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Timewalker Erik

      Thank you for the splotch of numbers that flew over my head. Seriously, in lay man's terms: When players miss games it hurts owners (period). I was just pointing out that people SHOULD take note of players who are prone to miss games during the season due to injury. Well that's if they want to avoid games missed by their fantasy NBA players.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Timewalker Erik

      TMac and is borderline DBDL because of his declining quality of production even if he DOES play. Close to Jermaine's reason for being there. Fine, they both get good games every now and then, heck even a monster one once in a blue moon; but looking at what they bring to the table when they DO play leads me to pick other, more viable and healthier guys at the same expected draft rounds you normally find them in.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Timewalker Erik

      Exactly my sentiment! I somehow would rather prefer to see him injured, and playing his heart out through the injury in a non-Detroit Piston team. But then again, is it too much to ask to see him healthy and play well in a good team like he did while he was with the Denver Nuggets?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/nelswadycki Nels

      DBDL? IPL? What is this, Corporate Acronymerica?

    • RBAej

      Where is Al Jefferson? I decided that I could draft him after he played the full 82 last season and I thought I was being rewarded for looking past his injury history. If he doesn't have a sprained ankle he's getting his appendix removed midseason!! I just hope this "twisted knee" isn't serious. Half of my teams can't afford him to be on the shelf for the next month!! Also, If you have a DBDL, how is it even possible to NOT have T-Mac on it? What does a guy have to do to make that list? I know for me I'd never touch T-Mac and Yao would need to have 5 straight 82-game seasons before I'd give him a second chance. I'm also going to have to think long and hard about Kevin Martin next season. He's so nice for the FT%, points, and threes when he's playing, but this is a little ridiculous!!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Doneycat Doneycat

      I'd have to put on the list one Terrance Jerod Ford. I wouldn't go near him with a 10th round pick. I'll let someone else enjoy his 44% shooting and the gelcap next to his name on Basketball Monster.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/nelswadycki Nels

      Speaking of Al Jefferson… dunzo.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Timewalker Erik

      Believe me, Al is now on the list after this "gone-for-the-season" episode". TMac is hanging by a thread, a thin one. He is headed for my DBDL if he does not improve his production with what's left of the season. Yao is just so undeniably useful when he does play. The fantasy/delusion of him playing 75+ games in a season is just so tempting. I admit I fell for it in the GMTR readers league. I will be checking myself into Yao drafting rehab after this season ends.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Timewalker Erik

      Doney: T.J. was a definite afterthought when I clicked "publish." He, along with Al-Jeff are headed to the list. As I said the season isn't over and I will revisit the list for sure at season's end. Speaking of PF/Cs, what is everyone's outlook on Carlos Boozer?

    • RBAej

      The Salt Lake City Tribune says that Boozer will attempt to return to the Jazz lineup on the 17th, right after the All-Star break. You'd have to think that he'll come back and play well since this is a contract year and he has a lot to gain if he can dominate the second half. Utah has good players at his position, but Sloan wants to win first and foremost and I can't see him playing games with Boozer, even though Boozer did already say that he wanted to opt out of his contract. It could be a situation similar to Deron's where he has to play a few weeks before he's back at 100%. Who do you guys see suffering the most fantasy-wise? Back to the bench for Millsap? I just can't see Boozer back with this team next season.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Timewalker Erik

      A week or two into his regular minutes on the floor, Booze should be close to the Booze we drafted him for. But this being a contract year does not hold as much weight in my opinion. He will still be limited by what his body will allow him to do. We will have to see how he adjusts. The bank account may be willing but the flesh will have to cooperate.
      Deron will be there to make his transition back into the fold of things a lot easier since they've both got that "Stockton-Malone" connection going on…
      Paul (Millsap) will probably take the biggest hit, both in minutes per game and consequently statistical contributions to his fantasy owners' teams.

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    • http://www.apartments-for-rent-in-brooklyn.com/how-old-do-you-have-to-be-to-work.html Jay

      He just has to work hard at recovering through rehab. How old is he anyway? Next season is really going to be something. I can't wait.

    • http://www.apartments-for-rent-in-brooklyn.com/how-old-do-you-have-to-be-to-work.html Jay

      He just has to work hard at recovering through rehab. How old is he anyway? Next season is really going to be something. I can't wait.

    • http://www.apartments-for-rent-in-brooklyn.com/how-old-do-you-have-to-be-to-work.html Jay

      He just has to work hard at recovering through rehab. How old is he anyway? Next season is really going to be something. I can’t wait.

    • http://www.apartments-for-rent-in-brooklyn.com/how-old-do-you-have-to-be-to-work.html Jay

      He just has to work hard at recovering through rehab. How old is he anyway? Next season is really going to be something. I can't wait.

    • http://www.apartments-for-rent-in-brooklyn.com/how-old-do-you-have-to-be-to-work.html Jay

      He just has to work hard at recovering through rehab. How old is he anyway? Next season is really going to be something. I can't wait.

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