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  • Buy or Sell? Guys off to a Slow Start

    Author Icon for Patrick

    Categorized as: Author: Patrick, Fantasy Basketball
    Posted on: November 13th, 2009

    In Part 1 of this post, we looked at the players who started off the season hot – whether it be a shirtless Danilo Gallinari or Channing Frye dropping threes – and predicted if we thought their fast start was for real or if you should sell high on a player who was playing above his head.

    In this post, we’ll look at the flip side of that equation – the players who were drafted high and are now underperforming what was expected from them through this point in the season. Like in the last post, Nels, Erik and I went through the list of underperformers (basically, guys who were drafted in the top 120 of most drafts and are now significantly below their draft position based on the GMTR rankings) and gave them a BUY, HOLD, or SELL using the following guidelines:

    BUY – The player is much better than he’s shown so far this year. Time to trade for him or pick him up off free agency while his value is at its lowest.

    HOLD
    – I’d keep him if I owned him, but it isn’t worth the risk to go out and trade for a guy who might be in for a bad year.

    SELL – While the guy might not be quite as bad he’s shown so far, it is time to cut him loose while he still has some value left.

    So here are the guys who have been killing fantasy owners around the world after the first three weeks of the season (with their current rank on the GMTR player rater in parenthesis).

    Nate Robinson (277)

    Nels – BUY
    Erik – BUY
    Patrick – BUY

    Don’t forget: Knicks = Fantasy Magic as long as D’Antoni is around. He had 17 and 6 the game before he sprained his ankle. -Nels

    The Knicks have consistently done everything possible to minimize Robinson’s role on the team, which means that the rejuvenation of Larry Hughes and very recent emergence of rookie Toney Douglas is a bad sign for Robinson. Still, considering that he has probably been dropped in a lot of leagues, you’ve got to like the price you can get him for. -Patrick

    Nate Robinson
    Nate Robinson is the equivalent of an extra value meal at this point in the season.

    Mike Conley (184)

    Nels – SELL
    Erik – HOLD
    Patrick – SELL

    Sorry, I lost faith in him a long time ago. Sure, AI is gone now, but the Grizz have some players who are actually pretty decent, so there’s not a need for him to do much more than he’s doing now. -Nels

    Even without A.I. he has been erratic at best. Wait. -Erik

    Conley only played 17 minutes in the Grizzlies last game before getting benched in place of Marcus Williams. Iverson or no Iverson, Conley just isn’t that good. He did heat up last season around February, but do you really want to wait for him to maybe put it all together again at the end of the season? There are much better PGs in the league to target for a trade. Like all of them.

    Andre Miller (169)

    Nels – HOLD
    Erik – SELL
    Patrick – HOLD

    He’s shooting poorly for him and will probably improve as he gets used to playing with a team that has more than one other All Star on it. -Nels

    He won’t be the Andre Miller of Philly… -Erik

    Well, he’s starting now, so that’s good. But his minutes are not going to surpass about 30 a game (6 less than last year) meaning his fantasy-related stats are in for a decline across the board.

    Thaddeus Young (159)

    Nels – HOLD
    Erik – HOLD
    Patrick – BUY

    I just can’t bring myself to believe that Thad is going to continue his regression for the whole season… -Nels

    Wait and see. -Erik

    Ok, maybe he’s not quite ready to explode this year, but it simply looks like a case of Young not having his shot to begin the season. The 42% from the floor 19% from three is going to improve, and as a result, so will his scoring. -Patrick

    Paul Millsap (151)

    Nels – BUY
    Erik – HOLD
    Patrick – HOLD

    Everyone knows we’re just waiting for Boozer to get shipped out before Millsap can get back to doing what he did last season. Don’t overpay, though, cause if that somehow doesn’t happen, Millsap is in a very difficult position. -Nels

    I still think Boozer will be traded. -Erik

    As a Millsap owner myself, I attest to the fact that no one is buying Millsap at the moment. It’d be great if Boozer got moved, but the Jazz are a much better team with him on the court, so personally I don’t think the outlook is good for Millsap this season. -Patrick

    Caron Butler (138)

    Nels – HOLD
    Erik – SELL
    Patrick – BUY

    He’s only got 4 assists in 7 games. That can’t be for real. And he’s only shooting 39%. I wouldn’t take a risk in trading for him, but don’t try to sell him right now because you won’t get what he should end up being worth at the end of the season. -Nels

    Stage one of several missed games complete. Stand by for more. -Erik

    We expected that the return of Arenas might negatively affect Butler’s fantasy value, but damn it’s been ridiculous so far this season. The good news is that Butler has looked a little more like himself in the Wizards last 3 games, including a total of 6 steals over that time. The bad news is that his assists are way down and will likely stay that way because the Wizards have done away with the Princeton offense. -Patrick

    Derrick Rose (131)

    Nels – BUY
    Erik – BUY
    Patrick – BUY

    He’s still adjusting to life without Ben Gordon, and life with John Salmon’s shooting slump. He’ll definitely end up higher than 131. -Nels

    I think it’s just been a slow start, but he should get his fantasy game in order in due time. Perhaps, not to many reachers’ expectations, but definitely a bit better than his current performances. -Erik

    Supporting the collective weight of the city of Chicago on his shoulders appears to have slowed down Rose this season. Ok, the ankle injury that kept him out of most of the preseason left him with a ton of rust to shake off while playing in actual games. Grab Rose from his nervous owner in your league if possible because he’ll be fine this year. -Patrick

    Jose Calderon (107)

    Nels – ?
    Erik – BUY
    Patrick – BUY

    I have no idea. He’s not playing that much worse than last year. His FT shooting is down a lot, but he doesn’t shoot that many of them, so who knows… -Nels

    A tentative buy considering his minutes will likely be down from last season. Still, the 71% from the line is going to improve as will the assists. -Patrick

    Al Jefferson (95)

    Nels – BUY
    Erik – HOLD/SELL
    Patrick – HOLD

    He’s only playing 30 minutes per game this year because he’s still recovering a bit from his surgery last year. If he can work up to playing 35-36 minutes again, he’ll be back to his awesome self. -Nels

    Buy if you can get him at a decent price, but considering his draft position and the fact that he plays center, I’m guessing you’d have to overpay to get him. Anytime a guy is “not 100%” in the NBA, be wary of him missing a bunch of games. -Patrick

    Jason Kidd (63)

    Nels – BUY
    Erik – SELL
    Patrick – HOLD

    I don’t know… I’ve been waiting for Kidd to fall off for a long time now, but I don’t think he’ll end up any lower than where is currently is ranked this year, so if you can get him for someone in that range, I say do it. -Nels

    Sigh. It finally arrived, the stat “down turn” – Erik

    Kidd’s stats have been on the slow decline for about 3 years now. He is what he is at this point. -Patrick

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    • FantasyHoopster

      Nice article. I'm on board with the Calderon BUY train as it looks like he's finding his footing the last few games. (That 1 assist game just might have been rock bottom.) I also agree that Kidd and Butler (and Calderon for that matter) won't be the same this year, but I'd like either of them at the right price. Just did a buy low piece on Amare, let me know what you guys think. Yeah, it's always hard to “buy low” on a first rounder this early in the season, but you never know…

    • FantasyHoopster

      Nice article. I'm on board with the Calderon BUY train as it looks like he's finding his footing the last few games. (That 1 assist game just might have been rock bottom.) I also agree that Kidd and Butler won't be the same this year, but I'd like either of them at the right price. Just did a buy low piece on Amare, let me know what you guys think. Yeah, it's always hard to “buy low” on a first rounder this early in the season, but you never know…

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      You know I had Amar'e on my preliminary list of guys for this article and then I took him off for some reason that I can't explain now. But yeah, he's underperforming this season even more than someone like Kidd. I think you summed up the Amar'e situation and what to expect from him better than we would have here.

      http://fantasyhoopster.com/2009/11/13/20-second

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      You know I had Amar'e on my preliminary list of guys for this article and then I took him off for some reason that I can't explain now. But yeah, he's underperforming this season even more than someone like Kidd. I think you summed up the Amar'e situation and what to expect from him better than we would have here.

      http://fantasyhoopster.com/2009/11/13/20-second

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      You know I had Amar'e on my preliminary list of guys for this article and then I took him off for some reason that I can't explain now. But yeah, he's underperforming this season even more than someone like Kidd. I think you summed up the Amar'e situation and what to expect from him better than we would have here.

      http://fantasyhoopster.com/2009/11/13/20-second

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