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  • Day 50 of 124: Gordon Hayward and All that Jazz

    Author Icon for Erik

    Categorized as: Author: Erik, Fantasy Basketball, Utah Jazz
    Posted on: February 13th, 2012

    Line of the Night & Waiver Wire Line of the Night: While Gordon Hayward (2.13) looks like the type of kid who’d get slushied in an episode of Glee, we at GMTR are glad that geeky looks are not considered as a statistical category in fantasy basketball. He’s only owned in a third of Yahoo leagues (33%) and after last night’s career performance, Hayward should now be making waves in some fantasy keeper radars out there. He had an all-around efficient shooting night converting eight of his twelve field goal attempts while making all of his five free-throws. That netted him a total of 23 points for the night and he added some solid peripheral contributions with five assists and two steals. We should expect more solid games from him down the stretch and next season as he grows into his role as the Utah Jazz’s threat on the wings. At 2.13 WARP it wasn’t a wowing performance, but it was the best for the evening and even outdid someone’s triple-double outing.

    Honorable Mentions:

    Tied for second we have his Al Jefferson (2.10) and the Toronto Raptors’ Jose Calderon (2.10). Al-Jeff has been a rock this season and he did again last night against Memphis with  21 points, 15 rebounds, two blocks. Calderon, on the other hand, had an uncharacteristic high-scoring evening as we all know him as a pass-first type of point guard. He led Toronto in scoring with 30 points. He converted on four treys and shot well from the field, missing only five of his 18 shot attempts. His other teammates were clearly awful as they only managed to translate only six of his passes into assists.

    Tied at third (or is effective fourth) we have Rajon Rondo (2.00) and his triple-double performance, and Monta Ellis (2.00). Rondo was the lone bright spot on the Celtics’ roster last night as the Big Three were quiet offensively. Rajon notched his second trip-dub for the season with 32 points, 10 rebounds, and 15 assists. And in Rondo-esque fashion, he contributed two steals as well for good measure. Ellis on the other hand, had a big night with 33 points, five boards, 7 dimes, and two steals for the Warriors.

    Kevin Martin (1.93) salvaged his butt-ugly fantasy week with an on-fire shooting night. He poured on the offense for the Rockets with 28 points, chucking five long-bombs from downtown and going nine of ten from the charity stripe. I’m not sure if last night was enough for Martin to earn the forgiveness of his frustrated owners or not, but at the very least it’s a step in the right direction.

    Heat teammates Dwyane Wade (1.84) and LeBron James (1.62) round out the honorable mentions for the night. Wade had 21 PTS, 5 REB and 2 STL, while LBJ had a double-double with a 23-13-6 line.
    ***

     

    Pick Up Lines:

    Klay Thompson (1.45) is smart spot add for the Warriors’ four-game week. He’s been productive lately and capped off the week with 14 points (4 threes). (3% owned) For the week, he’s been a more consistent producer than Brandon Rush.  Thompson’s ability to also distribute the ball makes him a candidate to get a bump up in the rotation moving forward.
    Jan Vesely (1.26) did well for the evening with a solid, all-around effort with 10 points, 8 rebounds, 2 steals, 3 blocks; but still needs to show that he can produce these numbers on a consistent basis before we can recommend an add at this point. (2% owned)

    Willie Green (1.03) was simply a garbage-time beneficiary as the Hawks got blown out of the water early on. His 17 points and three treys aren’t likely to be seen anytime soon. (1% owned)

    Contrary to Green’s performance outlook Zaza Pachulia (1.01) has been a steady 8-9 point-rebound contributor over his last three games and has had some heavy burn as far as time on the floor is concerned. Owners who were devastated by the loss of Anderson Varejao may just have to settle for Pachulia’s  8-points, 9-rebound par performance as they search for a big man. (9% owned)

    Biggest Loser:

    Brandon Knight (-1.12) ran straight into a rookie wall last night as he was way off his season averages. He had two points, one board and two assists while shooting 1-9 from the field. We shouldn’t worry about Knight too much and chalk this up to some growing pains.

    DeMar DeRozan (-0.45) once again contributed to his let-down season with yet another mind-numbing disappointment session. It was brick city as DeMar went 2-13 from the field, translating to a lousy 8-point, 7-assist, 4-turnovers performance.

    C.J. Miles (-0.39) had the fantasy life sucked out of him by the Gordon Hayward vortex as he was ignorable, chipping in six point and three assists for the night.

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    • Anonymous

      Is Varejao worth hanging on to?  I’m hearing 2-10 weeks for recovery (wtf??).  How big on Klay Thompson are you?  Would you drop Bayless for him?  Thoughts on Speights going forward?  Looks like he’s getting some more play and rebounding the ball well.  Thanks GMTR

    • http://twitter.com/conradburry Conrad Burry

      Some start/sit questions for an avg-based weekly-lineup points league (all stats = 1pt, asts = 2pts, TOs = -1pt):1. Is it safe to start Kyrie in the above format? If so, do I start Dudley or P. George at my flex?2. Should I sit Brand, Beasley, or Trev Booker?3. Start MarShon or Teague?Thx, guys! You rock!

    • http://twitter.com/conradburry Conrad Burry

      I’d hold onto Varejao until he gets a definite timetable (sometime early next week i think). Also, I’d rather have Bayless than Klay, unless you can’t wait for Bayless to come back from his injury…

    • http://twitter.com/conradburry Conrad Burry

      T-Booker, Sessions, Dudley, or JRich for the foreseeable future (asts = 2pts, other stats = 1pt, TOs = -1pt)?

    • Anonymous

      If im targeting small ball stats, should i drop korver, morrow, or jr smith for gordon hayward or wilson chandler? I also have dudley and gooden but dont think theyre the guy to drop.

    • crash

      i dropped teague to get hayward 3days ago. looking good for me. i like teague but he cooled off recently. also was lucky enough to pick up pek for varejao. should have i just held on to varejao? i can drop marshon for varejao.

    • http://twitter.com/conradburry Conrad Burry

      i think you’re to go on all fronts there…with an outside chance that Darko could cut into Pek’s stats, but he’s a better option than Varejao for at least the next month or so.

    • http://nelswadycki.com/ Nels

      If you can afford to wait until Varejao has his follow-up exam later this week, that would be the thing to do.

      I’m pretty big on Klay Thompson… for next year. He doesn’t have the experience yet to be consistent, especially not with only 15-20 minutes per game. But after playing 15-20 minutes game this year, I think he could be a solid contributor next year. I would definitely not drop Bayless for him until he starts getting more minutes and doing more than just making threes (unless you’re okay with getting only an extra 1-2 threes on average per game with very little else in the way of counting stats).

      Considering that Speights is only playing 21 minutes per game now and Zach Randolph is expected back pretty soon, I’d say this his prospects aren’t too good. If you have him, you can ride him until Zebo takes all his minutes, but I don’t think I’d go out of my way to pick him up at this point.

    • Nico

      Which of these SG/SF guys do you like assuming your team is in an extremely good position to make the playoffs?
      J.R. Smith/Wilson Chandler/Gordon Hayward/Brooks

      This is my team in a H2H 9 cat with 12 teams.  If possible could you do one of those team analysis things?  I have an idea that I’m weak in steals and 3pts.  This is my first time Fantasy BBallin’ and you guys have been too awesome.  Thanks!

      PG: Lowry/D-Will/Lin
      SG: Brooks/Hayward
      SF: Lebron/Turkoglu
      PF: LMA/Garnett
      C: Noah/Gooden/Pek/Jordan

    • Anonymous

      Perfect.  Thanks Nels.  The sites dedication to answering questions is something we all appreciate. 

    • Nico

      Forgot to say, I have the option of dealing LMA for Dirk straight up.  I don’t think LMA has put up a bad game since the start of the season and I love his real-life game, but Dirk has the potential to be just as good with added 3′s I feel.

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      I basically agree with everything Conrad said. Thompson’s minutes are all over the place – from the single digits into the 20′s – and he just won’t be consistent enough to be worth owning in all but the deepest leagues. I’d either wait it out for Bayless or look to pick up someone else. 

      Speights I would stay away from. Those double-doubles look tempting, but he’s one of those bad girlfriend types who is going to burn you as soon as you pick him up. And that FG% is brutal for a big man. The nice rebounding numbers over the past few games can be attributed to the Grizz and their opponents having a few really horrible shooting games in a row.

      As far as Varejao, I’ve heard 4-6 weeks for recovery myself. My general rule of thumb for injuries (especially this year) is to always assume the worst as far as the timetable goes, so a 6 week recovery would put him back on the court right before playoffs start in a lot of leagues. That’s a long time to hold onto someone like  Varejao unless your team happens to be in the top-third of the league right now. 

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      1. Sounds like Irving is going to be back for the Cavs game on Wednesday, so he’s safe to start in that sense. Given that you get +2 points per assist, I think Irving makes the best starter out of the three long term.

      2. I’d ride Dudley while he’s on fire. If he goes back into suck mode, then Brand.

      3. Have a third option? Given the way Teague has played lately, I’d go with Brooks even though he’s still looking to get his shot back. 

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      Although regarding #1, if you have to set your lineup today for the upcoming week, I’d play it safe and start George. 

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      Richardson or Dudley probably makes the most sense for your league setup and I’d probably lean towards Richardson while his shot is falling. 

    • http://nelswadycki.com/ Nels

      1. I wouldn’t start Irving based on the available news. I’d go with Dudley and George instead.
      2. I guess I’d go with Brand and Dudley… Beasley seems like he’s been hot but his 2-3 turnovers per game cancel out some of the extra peripherals.
      3. I’d go with MarShon since he’s starting again now and Teague is not playing very well.

    • http://nelswadycki.com/ Nels

       Kind of depends on how long the foreseeable future is… If we’re talking the next month or more, then I’d say: Sessions, Booker, Jason Richardson, Dudley.

      Sessions is the most valuable because of the Assists, and even when Kyrie Irving returns it looks like Sessions will still be able to get a pretty decent number of Points, Rebounds, and those double-bonus Assists.

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      Yeah, I would not drop Dudley or Gooden for any of the guys you mentioned. Provided you can give up some threes, I would consider dropping Korver for Hayward seeing that Haywood is playing much better of late and Korver’s value is directly tied to how many threes he’s hitting in any given game.

      According to my best guess, Chandler is still about a month away from stepping on the court, while Smith is a couple weeks away. While I’d rather have Chandler than Smith on my team, a month is a long time to stash Chandler. Maybe if he’s still hanging out on your wire next week…

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      Agreed. We’ll see what  Varejao’s timetable looks like, but I’d guess he’s out over a month and that’s a little too long to sit on him in my opinion, unless you play in a weekly changes league.  

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      Haha, completely opposite advice from Nels and I! I agree with Sessions to the point that Irving remains out, but after that he’s going to be competing for minutes with Daniel Gibson and Gee. 

    • http://nelswadycki.com/ Nels

       Without knowing the rest of your team or league format, I’d say you’re doing pretty good. Seems like Pekovic will give you Varejao-like stats, but with better FT%. I’d hang on to MarShon since he should be back to producing some good numbers pretty soon. That will last at least until Brook Lopez gets back and maybe longer… he might even get more three-point opportunities with Lopez back down low.

    • http://nelswadycki.com/ Nels

       Patrick has the analysis program (which we hope to get up on the web eventually), but off the top of my head, I’d say you’re probably right about being short on steals and threes. Depending on which way you want to go with your team, I’d say you might want to consider swapping DeAndre Jordan out to stash Wilson Chandler.

    • http://nelswadycki.com/ Nels

       They are pretty close, but you’re right that the only thing you gain with Dirk is 3s. They’re almost negligibly close in all other categories except Points and FG% (and maybe Steals). If you only look at the last week, Dirk actually overtook Aldridge, so you’re definitely right about his potential.

      Maybe Patrick can give you his analysis with LMA and with Dirk… to see how it changes things for you.

    • Nico

      Thanks for the insight.  I know Jordan’s been pretty weak overall especially in points and a bit in boards, but he’s the only player holding it down in shot blocking.  Without him, I pretty much will lose in shot blocking every week when I already have to give up TO’s.

    • Mike

      No question….just wanted to let you guys know you are greatly appreciated!!  Refer you guys tons and keep up the good work.  I hope the site takes off even though it might take away from response time, personal perks etc, but anyways mad bro luv coming from this guy! :)  

      Anyway you guys good have GMTR rating for your personal team?  Meaning, you type in your player and something spits out your %?  Or a personal team trade evaulator with your GMTR rating?  Just an idea…Sure you guys thought it already tho.  

    • http://nelswadycki.com/ Nels

      Yeah, I guess with LeBron, Lowry, DWill, and LMA (4 Top 24 players) in a 12-team league, you have the luxury of trying to win extra categories. :) Most of the time I’m just happy if I have enough healthy players to fill a lineup.

    • Nico

      Haha, to be fair, it’s a public league with not much competition.  Half the players haven’t set lineups since draft.  I wanted to join a more competitive league but they all told me to join a public for my first time and now I’m the most active one on it.  I actually got told I was trying too hard a few days ago, which was sad.  ;[

      My other league is injury-crazy though.  Had picks like Horford, Randolph, Curry, Lawson, Blatche, Henderson, and Maggette.  Yeah I’m last in that one.

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      Hey Nico! Here you go. Comparing your team to the average team in your league, this the percentage better or worse you are on a weekly basis compared to league average (with LaMarcus Aldridge). Note I am using the 2011-12 YTD stats with some adjustments for recent play over the last week or two. I really tempered back Lin’s projection assuming he falls back to earth, but if he doesn’t, you’ll look even better than this. 

      pts 25%
      reb 21%
      ast 36%
      stl 7%
      blk 20%
      to -37%
      3pm -21%
      fgp 8%
      ftp 1%

      So what this is saying, your team is 25% better in points than the average team in your league. All I have to say is nice team! Although you are technically weaker in steals compared to some of your other categories, threes and TOs are your only category that comes out as below average. I guess your FT% isn’t any special either, but the rest of the team is great. You’re not kidding when you say you are in good position to make the playoffs.

      And here is what you look like with Dirk instead (assuming that Dirk bounces back mostly to what we expect).

      pts 24%
      reb 19%
      ast 35%
      stl 5%
      blk 20%
      to -35%
      3pm -11%
      fgp 7%
      ftp 1%

      Provided the Dirk we’ve seen this week is the one we get going forward, then the trade does indeed help you out in threes, although your still a bit below average in that category. As Nels mentioned, everything else pretty much stays the same, so I don’t see why you shouldn’t pull the trigger on that one provided you trust Dirk for the rest of the year. 

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      Thanks Mike! We appreciate it!

      I would absolutely love it if the rater had a trade analyzer or a team analyzer where you could plug in your team and it would split out analysis. It’s one of the many things I’m planning to add in there when I get a chance! I know I’d use that kind of things all the time.

      Stay tuned.

    • slick

       h2h 14 team 9 cat..i was offered paul pierce for paul millsap..should i accept..my other bigs are dirk,anderson,ibaka,chandler and lopez

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      The trade is going to net you about 3.5 assists per game, 1.5 threes and a little bit of points. It’s gonna cost you 4 boards, 0.5 blocks, 1.3 additional TOs and a good amount of FG%. If you need assists or threes, or think that Millsap is going to regress during the second half of the season, it’s be a good trade. Otherwise, stick with Millsap.

    • slick

       Thanks pat..the problem i have is lopez will be returning soon and i cant play all my bigs cause i’ll have 6 bigs with only 5 spots left for them to fit..my other sf’s are hayward and corey brewer

    • Anonymous
    • http://nelswadycki.com/ Nels

       I don’t know who this “they” is but I think joining a public league is probably actually the worst way to start playing fantasy basketball. It’s always more fun with at least a few you know.

      Good way to get some hardware in your Yahoo Fantasy Profile, though. :)

    • http://nelswadycki.com/ Nels

      I thought you said No question?

      Yeah, we are definitely going to try to get something like that going… Just depends on how much time it takes and how much time we have.

    • http://nelswadycki.com/ Nels

       OUCH. Erik must be some sort of fantasy prophet… he just picked up Kostas Koufos in the expert’s league team that we manage together. I suppose Koufos is a must add, at least in DTD leagues.

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      In that case, I’d make the trade. I’d much rather have Pierce in my lineup instead of Brewer than having one of the bigs you have on your team stashed on the bench. 

    • GregSchulz

      Last
      week I needed to have a big shakeup to the back-end of my team, so I thought
      now was a good time to ask how it stacks up again (assuming Augustin is
      healthy). I ended up dropping Morrow, Stuckey, Camby, and Spencer Hawes and
      adding D.J. Augustin, Chris Kaman, Channing Frye and Eric Gordon.

      Here
      is my team right now (10 Team, 9-Cat H2H):

      Lebron

      LaMarcus

      Josh
      Smith

      Manu
      Ginobli

      Marcus
      Thornton

      Paul
      George

      Dorel
      Wright

      David
      West

      Channing
      Frye

      D.J.
      Augustin

      (Bn)
      Jason Richardson

      (Bn)
      Kemba Walker

      (Bn)
      Chris Kaman

      (Bn)
      Samuel Dalembert

      (IR)
      Eric Gordon

      I like my team right now, but I have several concerns.
      Wright is losing a lot of minutes to Thompson and Rush. Dalembert and Kaman
      both seem to be productive as long as they get enough minutes, but that can’t
      be counted from either of them. And Walker and Augustin will likely hurt my
      FG%, but seem too valuable to be dropped.

      Would you drop any of these guys for these guys for Afflalo,
      Amir Johnson, Morrow, Budinger, Shumpert or Gustavo Ayon (who I think would be
      a great fit on my team). Also, is J.R. Smith a must add for my team when he
      comes back, and who would you drop for him? 

    • GregSchulz

      Last
      week I needed to have a big shakeup to the back-end of my team, so I thought
      now was a good time to ask how it stacks up again (assuming Augustin is
      healthy). I ended up dropping Morrow, Stuckey, Camby, and Spencer Hawes and
      adding D.J. Augustin, Chris Kaman, Channing Frye and Eric Gordon.

      Here
      is my team right now (10 Team, 9-Cat H2H):

      Lebron

      LaMarcus

      Josh
      Smith

      Manu
      Ginobli

      Marcus
      Thornton

      Paul
      George

      Dorel
      Wright

      David
      West

      Channing
      Frye

      D.J.
      Augustin

      (Bn)
      Jason Richardson

      (Bn)
      Kemba Walker

      (Bn)
      Chris Kaman

      (Bn)
      Samuel Dalembert

      (IR)
      Eric Gordon

      I like my team right now, but I have several concerns.
      Wright is losing a lot of minutes to Thompson and Rush. Dalembert and Kaman
      both seem to be productive as long as they get enough minutes, but that can’t
      be counted from either of them. And Walker and Augustin will likely hurt my
      FG%, but seem too valuable to be dropped.

      Would you drop any of these guys for these guys for Afflalo,
      Amir Johnson, Morrow, Budinger, Shumpert or Gustavo Ayon (who I think would be
      a great fit on my team). Also, is J.R. Smith a must add for my team when he
      comes back, and who would you drop for him? 

    • GregSchulz

      Last
      week I needed to have a big shakeup to the back-end of my team, so I thought
      now was a good time to ask how it stacks up again (assuming Augustin is
      healthy). I ended up dropping Morrow, Stuckey, Camby, and Spencer Hawes and
      adding D.J. Augustin, Chris Kaman, Channing Frye and Eric Gordon.

      Here
      is my team right now (10 Team, 9-Cat H2H):

      Lebron
      LaMarcus
      Josh Smith
      Manu Ginobli
      Marcus Thornton
      Paul George
      Dorel Wright
      David West
      Channing Frye
      D.J. Augustin
      (Bn) Jason Richardson
      (Bn) Kemba Walker
      (Bn) Chris Kaman
      (Bn) Samuel Dalembert
      (IR) Eric Gordon

      I like my team right now, but I have several concerns.
      Wright is losing a lot of minutes to Thompson and Rush. Dalembert and Kaman
      both seem to be productive as long as they get enough minutes, but that can’t
      be counted from either of them. And Walker and Augustin will likely hurt my
      FG%, but seem too valuable to be dropped.

      Would you drop any of these guys for these guys for Afflalo,
      Amir Johnson, Morrow, Budinger, Shumpert or Gustavo Ayon (who I think would be
      a great fit on my team). Also, is J.R. Smith a must add for my team when he
      comes back, and who would you drop for him? 

    • GregSchulz

      I’m really sorry about the triple post.. Lesson learned is to not directly copy and paste from Word..

    • http://givemetherock.com/ Patrick

      No worries Greg. I’ve triple-posted on a number of occasions as well by accident. It’s an easy thing to do with this system.

      So comparing your team to the average team in your league (assuming all your players are healthy – except for Gordon), this the percentage better or worse you are on a weekly basis compared to league average. Note I am using the 2011-12 YTD stats with some adjustments for recent play over the last week or two. 

      pts 7%
      reb 8%
      ast -5%
      stl -2%
      blk 21%
      to -2%
      3pm 23%
      fgp -1%
      ftp 1%

      So what this is saying, your team is 7% better in points than the average team in your league. Overall your big strengths are in blocks and threes and you above average in points and boards as well. You don’t have any huge weaknesses, although you’re below average in a few categories. 

      It was recently reported that Eric Gordon will have surgery on his knee is going to be out at least another 6 weeks, so he can be dropped. Then you can move one of your other injured guys to the IR and pick up either Afflalo or Smith, who would decent fits with your team. While I’m not as excited about Smith as some other people, I do think he’s worth an add in anticipation of his return and he’ll be a plus points/threes/steals guy pretty much where ever he goes. 

      I like Ayon, but I’m not sure if his minutes are going to be consistent enough to be worth owning in a 10-team league, even with Landry out of the lineup. 

      I think all of the concerns you laid out are valid. Kaman had a huge night last night, so you may have caught a lucky break there. There are a number of decent players on your wire, so I might try packaging Walker with someone else on your team and trade for any type of 2-for-1 that’s going to give you a slightly better player. You have a number of not quite bad enough to drop but not great players on your team, so it’d be good if you to free up a roster spot for one of those free agent guys. 

    • Mike

      No fantasy team related question…wasn’t planning on adding a question, but kept on writing…sorry.  Was just a subtle suggestion Nels….

    • http://nelswadycki.com/ Nels

       I think I meant to throw a smiley face in there. :) I was jk. But not rofl. And not about part where we’re going to try to do that.

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